Saturday March 27, 2004
Catherine Falsani, Religion reporter with Chicago Sun Times
The actual interview is lengthy and eye opening. I excerpted the salient points to illustrate President-elect Obama's utter refutation of the basic principles of Christianity. To be sure his answers are phrased eloquently but his words are still poison in a pie. Here, Obama discusses his Christian beliefs, born-again, and sin. First are Obama's answers and second are the biblical citations which illustrate that Obama is not Christian.
FalsaniChristianity: A Christian doesn't "draw from other faiths." Either you are a Christian or you are not. Being a Christian means you follow Christ, completely, and you don't call the God of the Universe 'a higher power.' He is God. The First Commandment says "I am the Lord your God. You shall have no other gods before Me." Exodus 20:2-3
What do you believe?
"I am a Christian. So, I have a deep faith. I draw from the Christian faith. On the other hand, I was born in Hawaii where obviously there are a lot of Eastern influences. I lived in Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, between the ages of six and 10. My father was from Kenya, and although he was probably most accurately labeled an agnostic, his father was Muslim. And I'd say, probably, intellectually I've drawn as much from Judaism as any other faith.
So, I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that there is a higher power, that we are connected as a people."
Truth: There are not 'many paths'. Jesus IS the Truth. Anyone who denies that is not a Christian: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6. One path. Period.
Falsani:Doubt: Religion comes with a big dose of doubt? Not if you are a Christian!! "'If you can'?" said Jesus. "Everything is possible for him who believes."Mark 9:23
So you got yourself born again?
Yeah, although I retain from my childhood and my experiences growing up a suspicion of dogma. And I'm not somebody who is always comfortable with language that implies I've got a monopoly on the truth, or that my faith is automatically transferable to others.
I'm a big believer in tolerance. I think that religion at its best comes with a big dose of doubt. I'm suspicious of too much certainty in the pursuit of understanding just because I think people are limited in their understanding.
Understanding: People in the Holy Spirit are not limited in understanding. Obama looks at the world through the lens of himself. Through that lens, to be sure, people are limited in understanding. But the Holy Spirit gives all understanding: Colossians 2:2 "That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;"
Falsani:Sin: Romans 3:23 "For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard." Sin is failing GOD'S standard, not our own. In his answers, Obama often points to himself, not the Lord. Jeremiah 17:5 "Cursed are those who put their trust in mere humans, who rely on human strength."
What is sin?
Being out of alignment with my values.
Falsani:Sin: "But your iniquities (sin) have separated you from your God; your sins have hidden His face from you, so that He will not hear." Isaiah 59:2
What happens if you have sin in your life?
I think it's the same thing as the question about heaven. If I'm true to myself and my faith, that is its own reward. When I'm not true to it, that's its own punishment.
Self: Again Obama relies on self. You cannot do that for "the heart is deceitful above all things." Jer 17:9 "Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the sinful nature." Romans 13:14
Reward: 23 "Rejoice in that day and leap for joy, because great is your reward in heaven." Luke 6:23 God rewards and punishes, not the self. Obama is essentially saying he is his own reward! LOL, not possible. The wages of sin is death.
Falsani:Again with the self. A better answer to this question would have been: When I'm praying to God. When I'm singing hymns praising Jesus. When I'm reading His Holy Word. Nowhere does Obama mention the most spiritual thing possible: relationship with Jesus. No, when he feels most spiritual is when he's gazing at his own navel and contemplating himself. Again.
What are you doing when you feel the most centered, the most aligned spiritually?
I think I already described it. It's when I'm being true to myself.
Falsani:Jesus: He is not a "historical figure." He is not a "powerful person." "He is not just a wonderful teacher." 2 John 1:7--"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ cometh in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." Obama is a Christ denier and a blasphemer.
Who's Jesus to you?
(He laughs nervously)
Jesus is an historical figure for me, and he's also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher. And he's also a wonderful teacher. I think it's important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history.
It is clear President Elect Obama is not a Christian. He professes such, but he is not. Do not be deceived. ""He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters." Matthew 12:30